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Once we choose our faction we need an occupation.

 
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Khasha'an



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Once we choose our faction we need an occupation. Reply with quote

I like the idea of having a military sounding name...Not the Shadow Coalition, or ShadowTech, or some thing.

"The Shadow Warriors" 103rd Armored Division is something I'd like better.

21st Armored Infantry - "The Shadow Warriors"

SOmething militaristic for a military game.


This leads to the next question. What will we do? Will be form bomber squadrons with air support? WIll be an armored division with Engineers, Tanks, and Artillery? Do we wish to be an infantry platoon and work on infiltration of bases? Will we be armored infantry with a few tank drivers so that the strong infantry guys can be the gunners?

If we start and want to be a team we need to all be on the same page because having 3 infantry specialists, 2 tank drivers, and an air guy is going to get us all over the battlefield.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said before, I'll pilot the Galaxy. Smile I'm going to be all about Air. Air Support, Anti-Air Max.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was thinking of being either pilot/gunner/bomber or driver/gunner

*shrugs*


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I had ideas I planned to post on this once the empire poll was done, and an empire officially chosen.

There a few things to consider that aren't empire specific related to this.

Are we going to be a tightly structured Outfit (guild), with a theme or maybe two revolving around the type of equipment and strategy we predominantly use?
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Are we just going to be a an Outfit where members do whatever they like and we coordinate with whatever we happen to have and whomever feels like working as a group at that particular time?


My preference is for a more structured Outfit. Although, if we went this route I would likely have a second character to go do my own thing when I was so inclined.

Also, when considering themes, try to avoid any that require many well rounded infantry. BR6s can't make good infantry characters. That's a sizable part of the rationale to switch to Vanu from TR. Considering purely infantry, a high BR Terran infantry soldier is just as good as high BR Vanu infantry soldier. By the same token, a low BR Vanu infantry guy is just as feeble as his low BR Terran cousin. So, that pushes us to focus around vehicles and MAX suits.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being SC, maybe make Infil suit a requirment...only 2 certs.

But just imagine 10-12 Infil suits going into a base with CE backup and ambush tactics.

Some funny stuff...not to mentiona blitz hacks everywhere, and mines/turrets outside.

Ultimate sneeky outfit.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With of squad of 7 br6s and 3 higher brs you can easily get:

5 mags
3 bombers/a gal
2 quasars
3 ubergrunts, 1-2 with adv med
5 mas, 1-2 with engi

And that right there gives three huge options (bomber squad, armor squad, gal drops)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And of course all of those if organized can change a battle very quickly, moreso the gal and mags imo, but I'm biased against air.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nocturne wrote:

But just imagine 10-12 Infil suits going into a base with CE backup and ambush tactics.t.


There is a implant called "darklight" that allows them to see through stealth. That would be a pretty big achille's heel for such an outfit.

We need to organize our certs like Kursech descibes. For example, Vorgak and I seem to be on around the same times. Currently, we are both certed for bombers. It would be more beneficial for one to be a bobmber and the other to cert Magrider. That way, I could take a gunner position in his bomber one minute, and he gun my magrider the next.

I'm recerting to magrider, btw.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Being SC, maybe make Infil suit a requirment...only 2 certs.


Considering a BR6 reservist (the majority of the clan) will only have 11 certs to play with, those 2 can make a big difference. Not to mention infiltration suits have 0 armor, which means almost anything could be a one or two shot kill on you.

We'd be sitting ducks if somebody stepped on mine or lobbed a grenade at us.

No, I think that for playing as a clan we are better off manning the big equipment. MAX-Suits, tanks, and probably one or two guys with Reavers or Mosquitos for air cover or scouting.

However, a lot of the fun in the game comes from infiltrating towers. So, when we aren't riding the tanks I'd suggest we get one or two guys with the Anti-Infantry MAX suit to lead the way for raiding a tower or base.

I still like being the 3rd Armored Division "The Shadow Warriors", or something military sounding.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krugok wrote:
Nocturne wrote:

But just imagine 10-12 Infil suits going into a base with CE backup and ambush tactics.t.


There is a implant called "darklight" that allows them to see through stealth. That would be a pretty big achille's heel for such an outfit.

We need to organize our certs like Kursech descibes. For example, Vorgak and I seem to be on around the same times. Currently, we are both certed for bombers. It would be more beneficial for one to be a bobmber and the other to cert Magrider. That way, I could take a gunner position in his bomber one minute, and he gun my magrider the next.

I'm recerting to magrider, btw.


Har! I just recerted my bomber for AV. Guess I'll get me bomber back then!! Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since even the reserves can have multiple characters, I think eventually we can all cert for just about everything. My second Vanu will hit BR6 soon and then I'll start on a third.

After I've got a few characters up there in cert points, given a little warning, I can log on whichever is appropriate. So, I think more important than defining roles is having events and leaders.

If there were an 'all sniper' event on Saturday, I could log in with my sniper or CE that day and I'd fit perfectly. Or, if no event is planned, I could log in, ask the current leader what they need, pick one of the options he gives me, and log in that character.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vorgak wrote:

Har! I just recerted my bomber for AV. Guess I'll get me bomber back then!! Wink


Nah, stay AV. I'd rather pilot


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If there were an 'all sniper' event on Saturday, I could log in with my sniper or CE that day and I'd fit perfectly. Or, if no event is planned, I could log in, ask the current leader what they need, pick one of the options he gives me, and log in that character.


Actually. I'd like to get a list of people interested mainly in sniping. Teamwork helps a lot when taking down a base. Two snipers aiming one target = insta-kill.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snipers can't take down a base, silly Wink

Now who's up for some MAX teamwork? 8 of us jumping up onto a wall can take a base. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gurukk wrote:
Snipers can't take down a base, silly Wink

Now who's up for some MAX teamwork? 8 of us jumping up onto a wall can take a base. Laughing


Who's gonna open the door for you? Oh yeah, the stealther with ad hack/ Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gurukk wrote:
Snipers can't take down a base, silly Wink

Now who's up for some MAX teamwork? 8 of us jumping up onto a wall can take a base. Laughing


I didn't say I was taking down the base solo, but I certainly helped by jacking those pesky infantry rocketmen who were shooting at our aircraft. As long as I keep their rocketeers silent, our ships have a better chance of lining up good shots on their armor and MAX units.


Snipers are also useful for taking out spitfire cannons because I can smash one in two hits safely from 300 yards (way out of its fire range).


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another option is special ops. A squad of ten can put a base on the ropes within 5 or 6 minutes using AV Maxes, Reavers, Tanks and SA or AV infantry.

Through in Adv Hack and an AMS and we are set for a nice fire fight with the responders. If we get lucky, the hack goes through and a new front is opened, if not, we drew critical numbers away from the main front and had a nice firefight.

Same crew could also just as easily be used for resecuring bases the enemy is spec opping.

This would keep us out of the more lag prone areas and give us a role at the same time.

Just a thought.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could also do gal drops with 2 gals just to get the 4 maxs. Ideally we'd want an adv hacker, but that's really only important for breaking a lock when you have time to destroy terminals except the one you hack, hack the vehicle terminals to get some armor/planes/ams before people show up to resecure, etc. Gal dropping on a backdoor without a hacker is fine imo, since after the hack whether it's a granny hack or adv hack you still have to hold it.

Same goes for adv engi. Being able to mine their base when breaking a lock can be useful since chances are they will eventually try to roll armor into the courtyard, but again it's not really too important. The first people coming to resecure will pretty much always be bailers anyway, and by the time they start bringing armor there will be a full blown battle going on. And of course adv engi doesn't really do much for dropping on contested bases.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of mass gal-drops or Delivery trucks with Max's in the back all gunning into a base.

I didn't know there was a way to see past stealth...no wonder I was getting popped without reason in some cases.

And as far as hacking doors, anyone can hack entry ways without certification. Adv hack is just needed for control consoles and hacking terminals and the like.

Focusing on Para-dropping would be cool, circa 101st airborne or something. Get good at Gal-drops. People can load their mechs and tanks and the like in lodstars.

I think the cool factor is ganna come from mass air transportation.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friday, Gurukk will be sponsoring Gal drops all night. Be there.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im going to have 2 roles on 1 character:

Uni-Max with the nano repair thing (I will Max or Drive a tank/repair)


I like the feel and role of Max's. I dont mind spending part of a battle repairing damage to armor/turrets if needed. I really like Driving Tanks (Im very good at it, if I drive we wont die... most of the time).

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We should team up then Krul, because I'm a good tank gunner, but cant drive worth a darn

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nocturne wrote:

I didn't know there was a way to see past stealth...no wonder I was getting popped without reason in some cases.


it's very range limited, with my repeater I can kill rexos looking for me, same goes for using grenades. It also eats stamina fast and fogs the world out to the user.

More likely your running and the guy has audio amp on, or the base is hooked to an interlink facility and you show on the radar regardless.

answer to that is the sensor Shield. Smile

also it used to be possible to cheat by fiddling with your gamma to see a stealther. Those people are fairly easy to spot, and I report em still, after killing them anyways.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kursech wrote:

Same goes for adv engi. Being able to mine their base when breaking a lock can be useful since chances are they will eventually try to roll armor into the courtyard, but again it's not really too important. The first people coming to resecure will pretty much always be bailers anyway, and by the time they start bringing armor there will be a full blown battle going on. And of course adv engi doesn't really do much for dropping on contested bases.


Drive the base neutral (which you gotta do to get a hack) and the spitfires can be placed as well. Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think our main outdoor force ought to be based around the Magrider Tank, BR6s aren't holding us back at all doing this. Circumstanial type of things we might be able to pull off, MAX crashes, Gal drops maybe, although the more higher BRs we have here the more viable it becomes.

SC players should be asked to set their character to be able to fill a role in each of the main things we do. Doing that with multiple characters would be fine, and possibly necessary in the case of Reservists.

Not keen on making cloaking one of those major roles, I don't think BR6s are well suited for this, and more significantly its a very specialised role that many will not like or be good at. Not saying we shouldn't have cloakers, I like that role myself, just that it shouldn't be required of everyone.

Lib bombing doesn't appeal to me much, too dull, but I don't like Air stuff of any kind, so that's my personal bias coming out.


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