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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: Name approval/Intent to Create Thread Reply with quote

This thread has two purposes. If you are unsure if a name for your character will be approved post it here and an officer will get back to you as to whether or not the name is acceptable. Only the guild officers have final say as to whether or not a name is acceptable or not. If you need suggestions ask and some suggestions will be provided.

The second purpose is if you have play times in which a character capable of inviting is usually not on you can post here and we will look for your character to invite them. To have your character admitted you must post here before the character is level 15 and post some times your character will be on so someone can invite you. When there are enough members capable of inviting that being able to contact someone won't be a concern and this thread will become just a name approval thread.

**NOTE: Posting in this thread prior to character creation is not mandatory. The easiest and fastest way to get your name approved is to log on, ask for an officer, and ask if your name is fine. If there is a problem they will then give you suggestions so you can recreate right away. This thread is for if there isn't an officer online and you would like name approval and you post before you log in.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In one of the previous name discussion threads, Gragarn said that names should have 2-5 syllables to sound like a Sith Name. Khargug mentioned that apostrophes were helpful. I looked through the Sith name list on Wookiepedia, and found that this doesn't match up with the names listed on there.

Looking at first and last names on the list of Ancient Sith:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_Lord#List_of_Sith_Lords

There are twelve single syllable names.
There are twenty two double syllable names.
There are only three names with three syllables.
There are no names with more then three syllables.

There were no names with apostrophes, however there were two names with - which might be used similarly. Three if you count XoXaan.

Nine Sith Lords had single names. Fourteen had two names (first and last?)

With all that said, I'm probably going to go with some variation of Zazd. Now are the humans and cyborgs supposed to have some Sith blood in them, or just be part of the sith culture?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have sith blood.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please be advised that names in that thread are NOT all Sith PUREBLOOD.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant apostrophes are acceptable as in, within the game. Sorry for the confusion. They are also acceptable for our naming conventions.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghorr if this was facebook Id "like" your post
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i went with Wren'tok....perhaps not the best Sith name, but i believe i hard strength in it.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish you didn't lock the other topic it was an interesting discussion about names...

If a character is a Sith Warrior or Sith Inquisitor then I think they should have a Sith name. However, I think Human and Cyborg characters should be exempt as long as they have role-play names, and not names like Steve or Wookinookins per the naming policy. Even though Human clan members come from a family with a Sith ancestry it makes sense they would integrate socially with other humans and use normal human names.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh I see, that was actually the early sith lords names. Going by the famous ones mentioned here, it is 2-3 syllables instead. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_Pureblood

Does Zazd cause problems as a single syllable? I could always try something like Zazad instead.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guunzfub wrote:
Please be advised that names in that thread are NOT all Sith PUREBLOOD.


I can not stress this enough. Not only are most of those Sith Lords human, but some changed their names when donning the Darth title. I'll just quote the post I already made.

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I'd also like to point out that Darth <name> is not always the person's born name. For instance, Sideos, Vader, etc. were all "new" names they were given with their title.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_bane

His real name was Dessel, but upon taking the Darth title he changed it (like many others).

Another point I think people are forgetting is that we're based in the Sith species, not the organization.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_%28species%29

This is a small list of example names for Sith (race). Almost all of the Sith names from the movie era are mostly humans.

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Adas, Sek'nos, Dathka, Ludo, Marka, Naga, Ravilan, Simus, Valik, Vindican, Vitiate


These are the kinds of names a Sith is born with.


In those examples some have more than 2 or 3, so having a longer name is not an issue. I'm only listing them to give people an idea of what Sith names sound/look like.

@Mohr: The only reason I disagree, is because one of the main pillars of the Clan is that they're trying not to integrate with society, hence the naming rules in the first place.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wag'tuk as a bounty hunter
Wiz'mik as an inquisitor


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Adas, Sek'nos, Dathka, Ludo, Marka, Naga, Ravilan, Simus, Valik, Vindican, Vitiate


Wait, so common Sith naming include two syllable names with a hard stop separating the syllables and Grugtar was deemed not acceptable?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grugtar was too orcish. I haven't seen any words that have the syllable ug in them. Come to think of it I haven't seen 'tar either but 'tar might be workable.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Discussion pending on the names submitted and a decision will be given shortly.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gutlak wrote:
Grugtar was too orcish. I haven't seen any words that have the syllable ug in them. Come to think of it I haven't seen 'tar either but 'tar might be workable.


True, it does have a heavier (that may not be the right word) first syllable then many sith names, but some sith names sound outright orcish to me (Dathka Graush, Sek'nos, Ludo, Marka, Valik, Kalgrath, ).

Just asking as what one of us thinks sounds orcish, others may think sounds sithish. I guess what I wish we had a much expanded list of names to get a better feel for what a sith name sounds/looks like. Doesn't help that so many "sith" names are not actually Sith names, but just dark jedi/sith cultists.

I wonder if we would want to look at maybe using the random name generator to produce a large sample of names, then have the clan helm and language buffs go through the list, declare which ones are sith appropriate, and then post them along with the others to give us a much larger sample to help inspire our naming choices. (wow that is one giant run on sentence)


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if you actually try to say Sith words out loud, you get a better idea how the language works/sounds. I sat and practiced with Urara to get an idea of not only how the language sounds, but what people using this language would call each other. When trying to think of something to say, or trying to create a word or name, the first thing I do (after making that word) is say it out loud. I maybe even throw it into a sentence.

Just another little tip that might help a person or two.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ideas posted in between my posts are quite good. A large sample of names would be helpful. We can work on that. For now here is what was said about the names submitted.

Zazad: Zazad is possible and approved if you want it. One of these alternatives might work better though if you like them: Zah-zadd, Zh'zadd or Zaz'ad.

Wag'tuk and Wiz'mik: Wag'tuk and Wiz'mik are too orcish sounding with their phonetics. The problem I see with using -w as a starting letter is that we already substitute -u for -w and I don't see any Sith names or words in the language list that even have the letter -w. There might be some with -w that are workable but I can't think of any with -w off of the top of my head that would be so here are some random examples:
Dranask, Horun, Kastru, Vastaz, Aztbek, Voze, Siurkas, Xountaj, Lusiz, Kavit, Drasak.

If you don't like any of the above and there is a particular letter combination or letter you would prefer to work with post here or send one of us a pm and we will work with you.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you get ' Aposts to work? Every time I tried to make a name with one it told me the name was not acceptable.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it has a certain letter requirement. Like it can't be "Wak'wak", but it could be "Wakw'ak".

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:26 pm    Post subject: would these names be alright? Reply with quote

my little brother an i are just making our chars now

would Tal'dour and Maladour be acceptable names

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: would these names be alright? Reply with quote

Mug'Rukk wrote:
my little brother an i are just making our chars now

would Tal'dour and Maladour be acceptable names


I would be ok with those names.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wag'tuk wrote:
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Can someone please let me know if these names are oK?

Thanks


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wag'tuk wrote:
Wag'tuk wrote:
Wag'tuk as a bounty hunter
Wiz'mik as an inquisitor


Can someone please let me know if these names are oK?

Thanks


The below was embedded so you may have missed it:

Gutlak wrote:
Wag'tuk and Wiz'mik: Wag'tuk and Wiz'mik are too orcish sounding with their phonetics. The problem I see with using -w as a starting letter is that we already substitute -u for -w and I don't see any Sith names or words in the language list that even have the letter -w. There might be some with -w that are workable but I can't think of any with -w off of the top of my head that would be so here are some random examples:
Dranask, Horun, Kastru, Vastaz, Aztbek, Voze, Siurkas, Xountaj, Lusiz, Kavit, Drasak.

If you don't like any of the above and there is a particular letter combination or letter you would prefer to work with post here or send one of us a pm and we will work with you.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about

Kim'zik
kut'gaw

Thare are the same names backwards. Smile

Or Kut'gax


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wag'tuk wrote:
What about

Kim'zik
kut'gaw

Thare are the same names backwards. Smile

Or Kut'gax


LOVE them!


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